GO THE BONNET BULGE then put it on the cover BLING KING

[jheaton]

Please hurry and do the bulge i know that v6 is getting way to big for the engine bay and all, and that it needs to move it's heavy ass kit along now aswell, put the bulge in and make a bit more room, and hey it will even go faster

Speak to your contacts and try line it up for a feature in Fast Four's... or how about Getting it into the movies, on fast and the furious 3

[Nthn_suss]

Your having a go at it being a six with a kit??... I'm lost..

[jheaton]

no, im more going on about how i see an article every month now on a plain white kitted vp commodore that has no brawn and gets talked about like it's the best thing since sliced bread, bores me to tears

[Nthn_suss]

Ah, I see. Entitled to your opinion as are we all, some builds just take longer than others I guess.

[STRIKE]

no, im more going on about how i see an article every month now on a plain white kitted vp commodore that has no brawn and gets talked about like it's the best thing since sliced bread, bores me to tears

but this VP will have a 190 kw alloytec... theres never ever been an alloytec in street commodores. so this car wont bore you

[VN38T]

no, im more going on about how i see an article every month now on a plain white kitted vp commodore that has no brawn and gets talked about like it's the best thing since sliced bread, bores me to tears

Not everyone has 100K to spend on an all show all go car. Bens car is a great example to those of us who dont have big dollars to throw at their vehicle. Simple and effective mods are where its at, and im sure soon enough it will have the brawn which you are so desperate for.

[Wretched]

I guess if you don't like the staff cars section, then don't read it. But discounting the value of a car because it has a V6 is small minded.

As someone mentioned, it will be an Alloytec 190 within the next few months with some other serious power-ups coming soon after. And VN38T is right, build ups take time, which is why we're doing other things to the car in the mean time while we get the bits and pieces sorted for the transplant.

So when we've finished completing the transplant and power ups, why don't we go for a race and see what you're complaining about then? It won't be a bonnet bulge. :)

But thanks for the feedback, you have a marvellous grasp on the use of tact.

[VSClubby355]

Please hurry and do the bulge i know that v6 is getting way to big for the engine bay and all, and that it needs to move it's heavy ass kit along now aswell, put the bulge in and make a bit more room, and hey it will even go faster

Speak to your contacts and try line it up for a feature in Fast Four's... or how about Getting it into the movies, on fast and the furious 3

Wow jheaton, you seem to be quite vocal with your thoughts and ideas. Please enlighten us with your show car er I mean ex chaser.

[MRVNV6]

Are still putting the bonnet with the XR8 bulge on?

[Wretched]

supposed to be, any day now.

[blair_355]

haha well we have found 1 person that is sure to make our day better....
Anyways Ben keep up the good work.

[BEN189]

HAHAHA, classic post.
ps, love your car Ben :)

[Chainsaw]

I guess if you don't like the staff cars section, then don't read it. But discounting the value of a car because it has a V6 is small minded.

As someone mentioned, it will be an Alloytec 190 within the next few months with some other serious power-ups coming soon after. And VN38T is right, build ups take time, which is why we're doing other things to the car in the mean time while we get the bits and pieces sorted for the transplant.

So when we've finished completing the transplant and power ups, why don't we go for a race and see what you're complaining about then? It won't be a bonnet bulge. :)

But thanks for the feedback, you have a marvellous grasp on the use of tact.

Pwned

[jbourke]

Hrmm, yet another heroic post from you again jheaton, you seem so proud of the fact you drive a heavy arse 'Ex chaser' VT with a LS1 which is known for all types of problems in the VT. How about you show some balls and post some power figures, and then in a few months times Wretched post his figures you can show how much of a tosser you really are.

[Grant.]

Hrmm, yet another heroic post from you again jheaton, you seem so proud of the fact you drive a heavy arse 'Ex chaser' VT with a LS1 which is known for all types of problems in the VT. How about you show some balls and post some power figures, and then in a few months times Wretched post his figures you can show how much of a tosser you really are.
lol i wouldnt go saying that if you want to compare power figures, i dont know what ben has planned for his Alloytec but his VT will be no slouch by the time ben's car is running (a couple of months)
I am making no comment on the bulge, each to there own ben.

[commodorenut]

no, im more going on about how i see an article every month now on a plain white kitted vp commodore that has no brawn and gets talked about like it's the best thing since sliced bread, bores me to tears
You see the article every month?

Well if you were so seriously bored to tears with it, why do you still buy the magazine & look for the article?

Sounds like someone has a small bulge syndrome. Socks in your jocks?

[BLO 767]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA thats a day maker ^ :D

[jbourke]

lol i wouldn't go saying that if you want to compare power figures, i dont know what ben has planned for his Alloytec but his VT will be no slouch by the time ben's car is running (a couple of months)
I am making no comment on the bulge, each to there own ben.

I have no idea what he plans on running, but i dont go making pathetic comments on other peoples cars when i don't know sh*t about them! I think some people need to grow up, it is people like him who ruin the forums by talking shit and putting other members down.

[Broads]

I am speaking from the perspective of someone who loves LS1s (I am in the process of buying one) but also knows what Ben has planned for the VP and I can personally assure you that you'd be best advised to pull your head in if you really intend on running him. Having said that I'd be quite willing to go out on a limb and assume that you aren't.

It absolutely perplexes me why people feel the need to go out of their way to create a thread dissing someone else's car. Clearly you have nothing better to do. You have a V8. Ben has a V6. What's the big freakin' deal? Had this pointless thread been on anyone else's car it would be deleted and you'd be on a holiday by now. Congratulations, you are goose of the week.

[cgen3]

Are you guys always this angry or is this a special time of the month?

Why do you have to take it to heart?

Both cars mentioned i'm sure will be quite impressive in the near future...

Surely Ben, you must see the fact that you are a public figure, from time to time you are going to have to accept a little public criticism - even if it is a little blunt like the above post.

You should learn not to take the bait.

[ttvn]

Are you guys always this angry or is this a special time of the month?

Why do you have to take it to heart?

Both cars mentioned i'm sure will be quite impressive in the near future...

Surely Ben, you must see the fact that you are a public figure, from time to time you are going to have to accept a little public criticism - even if it is a little blunt like the above post.

You should learn not to take the bait.



lol.....thats about the best first post iv ever seen:yourock:

[cgen3]

lol,
I've read the forums for quite a while, but i'd never been inspired enough to sign up.


Until now that is.

[jheaton]

Im not putting my car in a magzine on a monthly basis saying how good it is or what i have on the way... to me at the moment it no different to any other vn vp out there, it has a kit and painted mirrors and a stereo which might i add cost nothing if i recall rightly, thats just good fortune i guess.

[BRI22A]

well for how long was ben just a write for the mag, a fair while, they dont get everything just handed to em like u may think....... ben has built 90% of what is one his car himself and designing some very nice unique (at the time) touches that everyone with a vn- vs uses now (console and stereo surround?) IMO it is the best car to have in the magazine monthly cos 90% of readers want a nice car but can't afford to build a custom paint, custom engine custom interior beast to drive of a 3rd sunday every month. gives people ideas and shows em bigger isnt better (they should show that in porn cos im worried)

[budhaman]

^^^^^^i dont like you.......you sound like a thoughrough bred tosser.....thats my 2c.....if you havent noticed Ben is the kinda person who does things himselves.....he isnt like alot of other magazine editors and throws cheque books to shops......he does it the propper way......so piss off and stop baggin him

(Dam you you beat me BRI22A)

[1 TRICKED VS]

Sounds like someone has a small bulge syndrome. Socks in your jocks?
:lmao: :D.

Ben's car is pretty sweet. Have you seen it in Person?? Mate you don't like someones car simple just shut up and don't say anything. If I don't like someones car I keep my mouth shut I don't go telling the whole world, If ya do you get a thread like this one.

[BRI22A]

budhaman i thought u were callin me a tosser which i agree with whole heartedly

[PuPSV]

Please hurry and do the bulge i know that v6 is getting way to big for the engine bay and all, and that it needs to move it's heavy ass kit along now aswell, put the bulge in and make a bit more room, and hey it will even go faster


guess my car is boring too being a v6 with a kit
maybe i need a bonnet bulge to to make more room when its not needed ay?

sorry to disapoint but no one gives a flying fornication what you have to say

its bens car and his to do what ever he wants
same goes for the rest of us

:dancingna

[Wretched]

Are you guys always this angry or is this a special time of the month?

Why do you have to take it to heart?

Both cars mentioned i'm sure will be quite impressive in the near future...

Surely Ben, you must see the fact that you are a public figure, from time to time you are going to have to accept a little public criticism - even if it is a little blunt like the above post.

You should learn not to take the bait.

i normally don't take the bait, however in this instance it wasn't simply a passing comment in some other thread, it was a direct assault on the project and myself in the very section for the car in question. if i had have left it, it would have seemed pretty weak.

and yes, i fully understand the public figure thing. i think i even discussed that situation in a recent thread on jason's departure.

but good to see we could get you to finally sign up and participate.

[gen3toy]

You see the article every month?

Well if you were so seriously bored to tears with it, why do you still buy the magazine & look for the article?

Sounds like someone has a small bulge syndrome. Socks in your jocks?
''GOLD'':lmao: :lmao: :yay: :flamethro

[Devil]

I'd rather own bens car anyday over a clapped out "ex-chaser".

[Yeti]

Ben, I'd like to see you add a Q & A section to the staff cars part of the magazine. We all have questions on the forum maybe you could use them?

[gen3toy]

i normally don't take the bait, however in this instance it wasn't simply a passing comment in some other thread, it was a direct assault on the project and myself in the very section for the car in question. if i had have left it, it would have seemed pretty weak.

and yes, i fully understand the public figure thing. i think i even discussed that situation in a recent thread on jason's departure.

but good to see we could get you to finally sign up and participate.
ben u r doin a top job with xxx mate dont let fools like that try to ruin your hard work,it will be something very different and stand out amoung others.:) :)

[Wretched]

Yeah for sure Chiows, if there are any pertinent or persistent questions about any of the cars we're happy to answer them, if they pop up enough or are interesting enough we'll print them.

thanks gen

[stealth vn]

doing a good job ben...........but at the end of the day there all commodores from vb to vz 6 and 8 (and others) we all love em so yea anyway keep up the effort SC team

[jozza87]

I think its more the old V8 vs the humble V6 that JHeaton is having a whinge about. Mate just because its not a V8 or lots of money hasnt been spent on the engine - doesnt mean its a piece of crap - the V6s are no slouch for a stock engine you know. When the engine plans do come to daylight like ben is in the midst of doing you will be biting your tongue and kicking yourself for making such a pointless and moronic thread im sure.


Some people have different priorities such as looks first then power, and i would much rather the look of Bens car over your thrashed stocko looking x-pig car.

[stealth vn]

I think its more the old V8 vs the humble V6 that JHeaton is having a whinge about. Mate just because its not a V8 or lots of money hasnt been spent on the engine - doesnt mean its a piece of crap - the V6s are no slouch for a stock engine you know. When the engine plans do come to daylight like ben is in the midst of doing you will be biting your tongue and kicking yourself for making such a pointless and moronic thread im sure.


Some people have different priorities such as looks first then power, and i would much rather the look of Bens car over your thrashed stocko looking x-pig car.

ill have to agree on that one

[filter]

it doesent matter how good or shit XXX is, IMO the main reason its in the mag each month is to show step by step directions on how certain mods are performed, to give us ideas and so we know how to apply them mods to our own commodore if we wish

[commodorenut]

^^ You've hit the nail on the head.

It is to encourage "Joe Average" to get out & have some confidence to perform some mods.

Not everyone has the desire, or financial means, to own a Gen3.

I'd hazard a guess that well over 50% of buyers of the mag would either own, or used to own prior to a V8, a 6 cylinder (V or straight) commodore.

[joe562]

wouldn't matter if triple x had 202 trimatic or 500 plus cubes a good car deserves the same air time i'm joe average who likes having a go ,keep it up the car will become one nice ride

[VS Monaro]

I own a VS with the Ecotec, it goes but it is now V8 gen3, which i will be upgrading to next year,
Personally, i would rather look at a nice car, than think hey that thing Look SH** but hey it got all the power in the world, i don't really car abuot power.

oh yeh and when you do the research that, Sh** alloytec 6 came out Stock with more power than 5L V8 in the vn vp vr and vs, so i'm starting to think this guy needs to get a clue, just because it's only a V6 doesn't mean it doesn't have pull.

I reacon my mates toyota Supra Which is a Twin Tubro 6, or other mates Nissan 300zx which again is a Turbo 6, or what about the Nissan Skyline which everyone would have to admit are possibly faster than the average v8 Gen3 and could smashed your Ex Chaser too.

[blownvn]

Yeah, V6's don't go....I don't know why anyone would bother:rolleyes:














PS: this post contains a high degree of sarcasm

[dogsballs]

yeah v6's are crap, mine only made 179 rwkw n/a

[Neilb]

Im not putting my car in a magzine on a monthly basis saying how good it is or what i have on the way... to me at the moment it no different to any other vn vp out there, it has a kit and painted mirrors and a stereo which might i add cost nothing if i recall rightly, thats just good fortune i guess.

I read a DIY on one of the not so new SC mags today and the Fusion subs and amps were being installed in XXX, as well as speakers. the Total cost was just off the top of my head, around the $3000 mark. Which to me isnt exactly "nothing".

Cant waint to see this Alloytec go in, itz gunna be fly :D

[joe562]

hmmm they r so slow! USA drag racer Matt Hartford ran a 6.55 @212 mph in a GM Cavaleir powered by a twin turbo 3.6lrt v6 in the 2005 pro rwd series ,from memory SCM ran a small write up about it, BUGGERS OF THINGS more info on summit bros racing site

[Wretched]

we ran something on it about a year ago. running stock block, crank and heads, the de-stroked 3.5L Alloytec is making 1650hp

[joe562]

Thats 275hp per cylinder not bad is it !!!!!!!!!

[tinka]

that is not bad at all

[BLO 767]

$$$$ING CRAZY> more info would be great !

[3SS3]

if you dont like it dont read it

[MRVNV6]

Is the bonnet complete or is it just as bulge you add on to the original bonnet? How much does it cost?

[Wretched]

the original bonnet i was getting was complete. this new one is an additional item moulded in. the same company, Savage, is currently working on their own design that i'll look at once they have the prototype complete

[madgts]

so when is this new bonnet going on the beast

[Wretched]

when i get it!

[budhaman]

thats fair enough i spose.....lol

[joe562]

G'day Ben is the bonnet a fiberglass replica or steel?

[Wretched]

steel and 'glass. their custom one their designing now will be all glass to my knowledge

[BLO 767]

yeah that would make sense, if its a first. some sort of mould/guide to go by.
probably FRP.

[aeroboy]

As far as i understood, XXX was featured every month, not as ben showing off what he has done, but with mods completed on it, for the DIY section of the mag. If someone didnt have a regularly featured car, what would the DIY's be performed on???

[toey]

mate i no i couldnt give a stuff what u think of xxx, i no that i like it and and aslong as ben is happy with it then it dont matter what u think of it. i do have to thank ben for putting in all the diy articals because if i hadnt of seen them i wouldnt of tried them myself, so thanks ben and the rest of the SC crew, keep the great mag coming.

p.s. i own a clapped out vr v6 auto which is slightly modded, which im happy with knowing that i did all the mods myself because i cant afford to pay some one to do it for me, one day ill have my flash custom everything commy, but until then ill just tinker with my vr.

[Fu Manchu]

I am going to put myself out there for people to throw rocks because this will be blassfamous but I think as well as the bulge a shaker out the top would look bloody tough as well. Ford did well with that!
It is only an idea but a custom version would be only an idea.
Surely would look awsome too when the bonnet is opened.

Just an idea ..Ouch! (Fu Manchu gets a rock to the head) here comes another one! (He dodges the rock)

[Fu Manchu]

no, im more going on about how i see an article every month now on a plain white kitted vp commodore that has no brawn and gets talked about like it's the best thing since sliced bread, bores me to tears

it's better when you buy the bread unsliced from the bakery because you cut your own to how you like it:)

It's not about the astonishing, blinding power this car will produce :p . Yes your's is so much newer and far more powerful than this ever will be :rolleyes:
It's about doing something different to what every other person is doing.
(That includes exchasers, stand in line my freind there are many of those flogged and pannel beated cars. :))

I am all for something creative.
we can't all have a V8 and Ben is giving hope and inspiration to the masses :)
so he can sell more Mags. :)

By the way great thread topic, shame you brought it up how you did but good on you for sticking to your opinion (not that we agree with it)

[X_CHASER]

just to introduce myself my name is todd, i have just registered in this forum and just bought my first 5 litre commodore which is a VP ex-chaser. People like the one with the VT ex-chaser need to understand that he bought a car already with a high powered motor in it, he didnt do it himself, he got away with it easy, so all the car has got in it is bought labour. what Wretched has got is a car he has put together himself. So what if it is a v6, it has given people a chance who have say just got their "P" plates, probably apprentices on $5 an hour and shown them how to modify their cars cheaply and effectively, and honestly the market out there at the moment is definately
V6's, you must admit just about everyone has V6's, but thats because value for money, reliability (Bet the vt ex chaser is reliable "piston slap"), and like other people have said, how often do u see a VP with an alloytec V6, and how many with a BA bonnet bulge?? you'll be driving down the street and what car you going to look at? a vt with pursuit rims or a lowered vp with a bonnet bulge, senator kit etc. i feel you dont deserve to be a commodore driver, i think you are better off with a push bike, see if your sister or cousin has one, by the way the vp looks awesome,
todd

[barneyness]

Jeese this guy is acting as if XXX is some 60kw 4banger with an oversized wing and fibreglass hanging off in all directions. XXX is sweet, definately gets the head going as to the possibilities. Ahh well i guess he/she??? got what they wanted, everyone fired up

[blair_355]

I don't know why everyone is jumping on this guys head for having an opinion.
But i agree that he brought his opnion across harshly.

[vzsv6]

like to see some results out of the alloytech. whats the body weight of a vp

[joe562]

saw a white vp ute today in Revesby area with a Monaro style bonnet looked good havn't seen this car b4 around don't think he's local we where going oppisit direction sorry couldn't get photo

[vk_304]

dudes, pull your heads in and stop ragging out every1!!!
so what if it is a 6, they're alot cheaper to run than an 8, and some put out as much, if not more than an 8! look at vengence for example, $20,200 all up in turbo form, that'll flog a stock gen 3 that you might pay double that for...
Pull your $$$$ing heads out of your arse and start appreciating other peoples cars instead of thinkin yours is the be all and end all!!!

[trboetr]

Well, what can i say that hasnt been said already? I'm not going to bag anyone, however I do agree with the majority.

Before I got my 2nd Gen3 I thought about for a long time getting a current comm v6 and pushing it to its limits with bolt ons and mods, and I tell you I only got the VY cause of a bit of luck and a desire to spend money there and then (well, spend the banks money:D). But I'm sure that a s/c or twin turbo V6 would kick the shit out of a Gen3, and from what I can tell, as I havent read the XXX articles yet, the n/a 6 he's got in the works will certainly give the 8's quite a challenge.

Its not about what you like or what I like, its about what the owner likes. So what if its a 6, the potential is amazing.

[Whit01]

Id have to say I like the plans for Ben's car and look forward to seeing each
staff writers car in the mag each month. Its good to be able to follow
buildups.

[VR.3800.]

xxx is a good ongoing project.i like to read and get ideas on what to do to my v6.keep up the good work ben..:) go the v6 boys..:dancingna

[Wretched]

i remember that avatar from somewhere

[BRI22A]

yeah go the xr8 bulge u will love the feeling

[trboetr]

Yeah, then get a decal from a ford bulge site, to stick on the bulge. Get a custom one that says what you think about fords, hehe...

[Fu Manchu]

There is a white VN 5ltr that cruises Joondalup with a Monaro bonnet. Looks awsome!

[bundy_bear]

ben i see you've got a alloytec going into the vp is it just a straight forward swap ? keeping the th700 box? just wondering

Cheers
greg

[stealth vn]

should put 1 in ur vh greg

[ti boy]

dude real nice car, just bought one myself today, have to finish building my clubsport first though,( have had it apart for 12 mths now doing full rebuild) but as soon as it's done then my vp will be using alot of the good ideas used on your ride, dont worry about what the small minded people have to say, if he's so unhappy then thats his problem, the cars great!

[brettneale]

dudes, pull your heads in and stop ragging out every1!!!
so what if it is a 6, they're alot cheaper to run than an 8, and some put out as much, if not more than an 8! look at vengence for example, $20,200 all up in turbo form, that'll flog a stock gen 3 that you might pay double that for...
Pull your $$$$ing heads out of your arse and start appreciating other peoples cars instead of thinkin yours is the be all and end all!!!

Here here. I loved Ben's VP before the Alloytec, now I can't wait for the conversion to happen.

[vzsv6]

how much have you spent ben

[dukeVP]

Rude question to ask... so i was always told :P....
Cant wait for the Alloytech, car is looking smooth.. Keep it up!!

[Wretched]

geez, i'm not sure without going over the receipts, plus there's been the stuff done through the magazine for tech articles etc...

over $20,000 at least, inc car.

[vk_304]

that fusion setup would be off its head, in my opinion they are a very good brand along with boston... Cant w8 for the new motor to go in!

[Kakswell]

correct me if im rong but.... im guessing a alytec 190 with extrators n exhuast would be close to 200kw.... wats a vt ls1 225! + the vp being lighter!! my personal experance my vn ss has ran a 14.5 im guessin aroung 195 200rwhp ive had a run agesint a sv6 wit a aloytec 190 and we where dead even on the hi way and wat they run stock 15.00s anyway?? im guessin his car would easy be 14 second straight up!

[blast]

jheaton

if you seen ben's XXX in person trust me you wouldnt be saying these things

its hot as very straight and the attention to detail and small uniqe touch's are amazing

as said before i would much rather XXX over your BT1

and when it gets its new Alloytec in it will be even better

Good luck with the rest of the project XXX

cheers

[Plonker]

Ben your doing a great job with the car, It inspired me to start modding my VP.

[Chainsaw]

you inspired me to sell mine as you were copying everything i was doing!

:nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:

[Wretched]

just got the Bling King back from the painter where the bonnet went back on complete with ricey bonnet bulge. looks pretty horn however the colour match is a bit off.

more of an incentive to get it all painted, i suppose. ;)

will post pics tomorrow.

[Fuzz]

Sounds good ben get some pics up soon i wanna see the bling king ;)

[sick vn]

this should look absolutely awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S

JHEATON = STOOGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wretched]

man, there's a thread with pics... check it out.

[raiden337]

budhaman i thought u were callin me a tosser which i agree with whole heartedly


lol, I'm loving this thread.

Soo funny! Thank you all involved for making my work day go faster :D

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, XXX is a normal car, something for the less well off to relate to.

Well it is untill the aloytec goes in :drool: