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Unread 03-10-2007, 12:44 PM   #1
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Unhappy Can't open my car, please help :( [UNLOCKED !!]

Hey everyone.

I havent driven my car for about 5 weeks, and i thought i should start it today and give it a wash. Problem is, looks like the battery has gone flat (Optima D34 dry cell yellow top). So it wont unlock with the remote on the key, and even when i put the key in the lock and turn it, nothing. I did dead lock it last time it was driven is that the problem??

Short of calling RAC which im not a member of anymore since i dont have a license and thought i wouldnt need them, is there anything i can try?? Could it be the battery in my key ? I cant get into the boot because of my stereo and no boot lock, and the bonnet is closed.

It's a vy monaro if that helps.

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Unread 03-10-2007, 12:49 PM   #2
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i would have thought the key should open the door anyway, always has in my experiences anyway (mate used to drive for RAC batteries and took me on quite a few jobs as he was on 24/7 call out.. thats rather odd
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Unread 03-10-2007, 12:54 PM   #3
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Thats what i thought. I tried both my key and the spare, and i got as close as i could turning it both ways short of breaking it in there.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 12:55 PM   #4
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wedge the top of the door out with an screw driver(the pro's use an air bag like the doctors use on a blood pressor thing) , then pull the button with a piece of wire ! looks bad when you do it, the door has to pop out a bid but all good after!!!!, that or smash a window
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Unread 03-10-2007, 12:57 PM   #5
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Yeh, thought of both ways, but i'd find a way to stuff it up. I just keep thinking of that RAC song. "You need a house brick.... house brick...."
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Unread 03-10-2007, 01:05 PM   #6
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Its piss easy like explained above how they use the little air bag to pump it up. Then you just need a hook shaped object to hook underneath the lock. The problems occur when you dead lock it. You then need to short the wire in order to open it then.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 01:06 PM   #7
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Can you jack up the car?

If so, connect a spare good battery up. To do this, connect the negative terminal to a good metal point (front K frame).

Then get a helper (or yourself with the remote) to briefly connect the + to the starter motor, on the big terminal with the fat battery lead going to it, and press the unlcok button, then remove the wire.

You don't need jumper leads or a huge cable, you're not starting the car, so normal hookup wire will do, as long as you don't leave it on too long (or it will carry current from the full battery to the dead one & heat up).

This should give enough power to at least unlock the car.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 01:10 PM   #8
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Hmm, guess RAC will get a call next week. Cant be bothered today. Might buy myself a battery charger too.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 02:31 PM   #9
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Thats what i thought. I tried both my key and the spare, and i got as close as i could turning it both ways short of breaking it in there.
So cars that allow you to remote/electronically deadlock the doors don't let you undeadlock and unlock with the key? thats retarded!
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Unread 03-10-2007, 03:29 PM   #10
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Open the boot, remove the luggage compartment light globe and inject 12v into the socket. This should give you enough power to open the doors.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 03:42 PM   #11
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This happend to me the nrma opened it up with the key not sure if I should post how
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Unread 03-10-2007, 03:45 PM   #12
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This happend to me the nrma opened it up with the key not sure if I should post how
put it in the lock and turn

Thats how most keys work.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 04:13 PM   #13
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Can you jack up the car?

If so, connect a spare good battery up. To do this, connect the negative terminal to a good metal point (front K frame).

Then get a helper (or yourself with the remote) to briefly connect the + to the starter motor, on the big terminal with the fat battery lead going to it, and press the unlcok button, then remove the wire.

You don't need jumper leads or a huge cable, you're not starting the car, so normal hookup wire will do, as long as you don't leave it on too long (or it will carry current from the full battery to the dead one & heat up).

This should give enough power to at least unlock the car.
Beat me to it. Although I'd just use jumper cables instead.

Can't understand why you can't unlock it manually though. The key is the fail-safe method after all.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 04:44 PM   #14
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You should be able to open it with the key still ??

a few mnths ago my ss battery died completely and even tho i dead locked the car, the key still unlocked it.

It takes alot of effort as obviously the door motors arent going to work.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 04:54 PM   #15
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put it in the lock and turn

Thats how most keys work.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 05:10 PM   #16
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My battery died completly once aswell, both keys wouldnt open the doors. But was able to open the boot and with luck the middle seat part was down...

Might be a flaw or not sure? But your not the only one.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 05:17 PM   #17
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cant you just open the boot and go through the rear seat somehow?
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Unread 03-10-2007, 05:26 PM   #18
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With the dead lock system all you have to do is turn the key anti-clockwise it will require a bit of effort but it does un-lock. Holden would not design a car that you could not open if the battery was flat. The dead lock system does not require power to unlock it. As for what was said above about prying the door open, and pulling the lock up.. get into a commodore with the dead bolt system, lock it then dead bolt it and try to get out!!!!!!! The idea of the dead bolt is even if the windows are smashed in, you still cannot open the door........
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Unread 03-10-2007, 05:38 PM   #19
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vx clubby: monaro's have a 2 seater in the back, ie: no middle bit to go through. Not to mention the 4 amps and 2 subs bolted there blocking my way. Plus there is no boot lock on a monaro and the battery wont pop it

ssfifty. I have turned the lock as hard as i can both ways, it wont go past a certian point. Turning it hard clockwise made a loud noise, and i had to jiggle the key out, but still no luck

charged s: Its work for me before when the battery has gone flat, ive put the key in and it opened the door. But i have driven the car once in 2 months so the battery is well and truly dead.

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Unread 03-10-2007, 05:44 PM   #20
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I think i'll just jack the car up and do what commonut said, seams to be the cheapest way around it. I might even see if i can just reach the terminals with a car charger but i doubit it. Will keep everyone posted
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Unread 03-10-2007, 05:44 PM   #21
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Keep trying it mate... Maybe pull on the door handle at the same time. I know from experience its hard to turn the key but it will open.. the door will pop out a little, then you have to unlock it normally ( I think.... was a few years ago when i had to do it ) it almost feels like you'll snap the key off i can remember that much.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 06:17 PM   #22
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If you still cannot open the door there may be a different trick to it, in this case call your local holden dealer and ask to speak to the service dept, and ask them on how to unlock your munro, it won't cost you a cent, well maybe a phone call, but they should be able to help you.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 06:29 PM   #23
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Keep trying it mate... Maybe pull on the door handle at the same time. I know from experience its hard to turn the key but it will open.. the door will pop out a little, then you have to unlock it normally ( I think.... was a few years ago when i had to do it ) it almost feels like you'll snap the key off i can remember that much.
yeh thats how the nrma guy did it you pull up on the door handle a little and turn the key at a certain time and it will pop up
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Unread 03-10-2007, 06:55 PM   #24
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ah $$$$ it. the forum isn't worth it

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Unread 03-10-2007, 07:01 PM   #25
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Use a rock, that'll open it. Bahahahahahahah
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Unread 03-10-2007, 07:21 PM   #26
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Hmm, sounds promising (not the rock idea ). I'll give it a go in the morning. Does anyone know if its a bad idea if you buy a battery charger to leave it on all the time. So the battery never gets flat. Battery is a dry cell.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 07:26 PM   #27
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you need a charger which automatically cycles between on and off,as you don't want to overcharge your battery.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 07:27 PM   #28
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Buy a float charger. Something like the ctek. Leave it on all the time.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 07:56 PM   #29
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Disconnect the battery terminals completely once you get it recharged.

As far as opening it now , getting under the car to hook power to it is your best option.
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Unread 03-10-2007, 08:10 PM   #30
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as per the holden manual from my VY acclaim. "to open the the vehicle manually after it has been deadlocked either by remote key fob or key, turn the key anticlockwise twice."

this means that you will need to turn the key anticlockwise, then back to return it to the start point, then rotate again. each rotation should be a 180 degree turn from top to bottom. first rotation undeadlocks, second unlocks. It works for me. Your alarm will go off though as the remote overrides the key. To disable the alarm, turn the ignition to acc (on in a VY).

you can also lock a car using the key by turning it once clockwise to lock and a second time to deadlock.

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w2ttsy: Just gave that a go. Didnt work. Im sure it would if the car had a charge but it did nothing.

I have also tried sneaking up behined my mums car and pushing unlock, to supprise it. That also didnt work. I have yelled at it also, again to no avail. My mate works at holden so ill call him tomorrow. Car is right up against the wall so jacking it up is going to be hard, and a trolley jack wont because the car is too low. Scissor jack for the win.

EDIT: Where is the best place or best brand of battery charger? Im thinking supercheap but i dont know a shit one from a good one.
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Maybe give the key to a mate and get him to drive 5 blocks away then get him to ring your mobile and make him push the unlock from where he is while you put the phone up to your car.
Apparently that works but in this case it might a long shot
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Im turning pretty bloody hard. I swear the key is about to bend. I also tried opening the door at the same time.
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Weird mate, the battry in my Clubby is constantly running flat, and I seem to be able to turn the key to open the door everytime.

Get a brick, glass is easy to replace.
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I have also tried sneaking up behined my mums car and pushing unlock, to supprise it. That also didnt work.
HAHA GOLD.

Can't understand how that didnt work though Shoulda scared the shit out of it.
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Im turning pretty bloody hard. I swear the key is about to bend. I also tried opening the door at the same time.

it may seem hard and like you are about to break it but im 99% sure that holdens have it set in so the dead lock opens it even when the door is dead. i have done it to a vx como that had a flat batt for 5weeks :P lol.. the key wont snap, just give it a bit
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w2ttsy: Just gave that a go. Didnt work. Im sure it would if the car had a charge but it did nothing.

Shouldn't need a charge though

Maybe the lock is jammed or something. I know in my VP (yes a few models behind but same concept) I had to kinda force the key clockwise to unlock at some point and some WD40 fixed this.

I dunno, I thought the drivers lock was mechanical. But maybe it's different on later models.
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if you are buying a charger to keep the batteries charged at all times it mean you will have to leave the bonnet propped open wont it? why dont you just get a normal charger and leave the bonnet just unlatched. at least then if the problem re-occurs you have battery access to hook your charger up to.
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Use the brick pick-up line on her...

Hit her with a brick and she cant say no






heh heh heh... let the dodgyness comence
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